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Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:22 am
by Brightblade
Simple question.

Can a Gazed at warrior use it's Commanders or Generals Skill, if within Command Range, to perform it's Skill Test?

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:37 am
by Rob Lane
Brightblade wrote:Simple question.

Can a Gazed at warrior use it's Commanders or Generals Skill, if within Command Range, to perform it's Skill Test?


No.

Cheers
Rob

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:49 am
by Brightblade
Reason I ask, is during mine and Dayle's last game, he was playing a Jute Host, a small unit of Gazer's managed to take out my Kollosos in one hit because the Kollosos has such low skill and the gazing unit had such high Gaze Damage Dice, a Gast Cyning, a Deathbringer, and a unit of 3 Gasts joined as one unit took down the Kolollos in one go...

That seems far too easy...

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:33 am
by Rob Lane
Brightblade wrote:Reason I ask, is during mine and Dayle's last game, he was playing a Jute Host, a small unit of Gazer's managed to take out my Kollosos in one hit because the Kollosos has such low skill and the gazing unit had such high Gaze Damage Dice, a Gast Cyning, a Deathbringer, and a unit of 3 Gasts joined as one unit took down the Kolollos in one go...

That seems far too easy...


Well there's your problem. Automata are immune to soul damage; they do not have souls. They cannot be harmed by anything that causes soul damage in any way.

You dingbats!

Cheers
Rob

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:41 am
by Jonathon Chester
They gazed lovingly into its souless eyes and found nothing in return was given.

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:37 pm
by Brightblade
Rob Lane wrote:
Brightblade wrote:Reason I ask, is during mine and Dayle's last game, he was playing a Jute Host, a small unit of Gazer's managed to take out my Kollosos in one hit because the Kollosos has such low skill and the gazing unit had such high Gaze Damage Dice, a Gast Cyning, a Deathbringer, and a unit of 3 Gasts joined as one unit took down the Kolollos in one go...

That seems far too easy...


Well there's your problem. Automata are immune to soul damage; they do not have souls. They cannot be harmed by anything that causes soul damage in any way.

You dingbats!

Cheers
Rob


You mean I elevated my blood pressure for nothing.... duh!!!

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:27 am
by Icchan
Low skills are pretty common for monsters though, so the issue still remains. I have also witnessed the absurd power of the Gast Cyning's and it's Gast's gaze power. So much more powerful than their melee attacks, that they don't really want to get into melee.

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:00 pm
by HughB
Jonathon Chester wrote:They gazed lovingly into its souless eyes and found nothing in return was given.


I almost wept at the poetry

Attempting to steer myself back on to topic, gazing is a stone cold reason to get some line of sight blocking terrain on the table.

I had it in my head that gazing was short ranged but I think thats cos dreaguth and ghasts also shriek which is might related.

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:04 am
by Rob Lane
Icchan wrote:Low skills are pretty common for monsters though, so the issue still remains. I have also witnessed the absurd power of the Gast Cyning's and it's Gast's gaze power. So much more powerful than their melee attacks, that they don't really want to get into melee.


To be honest, I'm not so worried about this as I've seen it through using the Jutes many times, and in my view it's a very different way of playing and I love to see variety in the way hosts are used: so it will probably stay the same.

Not everything should be a combat monster and combat monsters should have some kind of enemy that completely ignores their strengths, if that makes sense.

Cheers
Rob

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:41 am
by Icchan
Allright, but what's the weakness of Gasts? With Gast Cyning they have extremely high Skill and Might, they're almost impossible to hit with ranged weapons and they pretty much devastate anything they gaze at.

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:47 pm
by Rob Lane
Icchan wrote:Allright, but what's the weakness of Gasts? With Gast Cyning they have extremely high Skill and Might, they're almost impossible to hit with ranged weapons and they pretty much devastate anything they gaze at.


Large units of infantry.

Cheers
Rob

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:17 am
by JediCat
Rob Lane wrote:
Icchan wrote:Allright, but what's the weakness of Gasts? With Gast Cyning they have extremely high Skill and Might, they're almost impossible to hit with ranged weapons and they pretty much devastate anything they gaze at.


Large units of infantry.

Cheers
Rob


Also known as "Group up and hit it 'till it dies!!!"

Re: Gaze and Skill Tests

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:55 pm
by DrNO172000
Rob Lane wrote:
Icchan wrote:Allright, but what's the weakness of Gasts? With Gast Cyning they have extremely high Skill and Might, they're almost impossible to hit with ranged weapons and they pretty much devastate anything they gaze at.


Large units of infantry.

Cheers
Rob


Really anything that can get behind them at that. High skill seems less great when your opponent is getting easy strikes :(