Binding at Positioning and Goading

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Binding at Positioning and Goading

Postby Brightblade » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:58 pm

Looking at Binding some units together and wanted to check if it was a legal Muster and Position and what effects were possible..

So looking to Muster 2 units of Sronax, = 2 x 5 Rhinos, these will each Bind a Sronox, = 2 x 1 Big Rhinos, also binding to each Sronox would be 5 Thulean Hornheart Goaders, = 2 x 5 Thulean Hornheart Goaders...

Questions...

1) When positioning can I join both units together to act as one unit, so have 10 Sronax, 2 Sronox, and 10 Thulean Hornhearts in the same unit?
2) If 1 is legal, can the Thulean Hornhearts Goad both the Sronox and the Sronax in the same activation?

If none of the above are legal, could somebody please detail what would be a legal configuration when Binding and Positioning and legal effects of using the Goaders?

Reading the Rulebook, Requirements of a Goaded Unit are; must be a Friendly unit, must not be Unconscious, must not be Confused or Broken, must not be Immobile, Entangled, Prone or Circling... The Unit mentioned in 1) applies according to these rules...
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Re: Binding at Positioning and Goading

Postby Rob Lane » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:32 pm

Brightblade wrote:Looking at Binding some units together and wanted to check if it was a legal Muster and Position and what effects were possible..

So looking to Muster 2 units of Sronax, = 2 x 5 Rhinos, these will each Bind a Sronox, = 2 x 1 Big Rhinos, also binding to each Sronox would be 5 Thulean Hornheart Goaders, = 2 x 5 Thulean Hornheart Goaders...


If it doesn't say Bind+ on the Srónax you can't do that... which I'm sure it doesn't.

Technically speaking, Bind+ means you can Bind to more than one unit. Bind on its own is just one unit.

Brightblade wrote:Questions...

1) When positioning can I join both units together to act as one unit, so have 10 Sronax, 2 Sronox, and 10 Thulean Hornhearts in the same unit?

2) If 1 is legal, can the Thulean Hornhearts Goad both the Sronox and the Sronax in the same activation?

If none of the above are legal, could somebody please detail what would be a legal configuration when Binding and Positioning and legal effects of using the Goaders?


The Goaders can Bind to the Srónax, but they can't have already formed a Bound unit with the Srónox.

Brightblade wrote:Reading the Rulebook, Requirements of a Goaded Unit are; must be a Friendly unit, must not be Unconscious, must not be Confused or Broken, must not be Immobile, Entangled, Prone or Circling... The Unit mentioned in 1) applies according to these rules...


Hope that clears things up...

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Re: Binding at Positioning and Goading

Postby Brightblade » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:36 pm

Ok, so I could have a unit of 2 x 5 Thulean Hornhearts bound to 2 x 5 Sronax, acting as 1 unit and the Hornhearts could Goad the Sronax, is this correct?
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Re: Binding at Positioning and Goading

Postby Rob Lane » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:39 pm

Brightblade wrote:Ok, so I could have a unit of 2 x 5 Thulean Hornhearts bound to 2 x 5 Sronax, acting as 1 unit and the Hornhearts could Goad the Sronax, is this correct?


If you mean you have 1x Hornheart unit Binding to 1x unit of 5x Srónax, and then another 1x Hornheart unit Binding to 1x unit of 5x Srónax, that's correct.

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Re: Binding at Positioning and Goading

Postby Brightblade » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:14 pm

Rob Lane wrote:
Brightblade wrote:Ok, so I could have a unit of 2 x 5 Thulean Hornhearts bound to 2 x 5 Sronax, acting as 1 unit and the Hornhearts could Goad the Sronax, is this correct?


If you mean you have 1x Hornheart unit Binding to 1x unit of 5x Srónax, and then another 1x Hornheart unit Binding to 1x unit of 5x Srónax, that's correct.

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Couldn't the two units fight as one unit? Given the Goad rule change of -10 per goader, would need to roll 36 or less to Goad, easily fail 70% of the time...
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Re: Binding at Positioning and Goading

Postby Crazyguy501 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:42 pm

Pretty sure Thulean Hornhearts can only bind to Thule beast or monstrous beasts, so they could bind to the Sronox, but Sronax are monstrous infantry and therefore don’t meet the bind type requirement?

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Re: Binding at Positioning and Goading

Postby Rob Lane » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:10 am

Crazyguy501 wrote:Pretty sure Thulean Hornhearts can only bind to Thule beast or monstrous beasts, so they could bind to the Sronox, but Sronax are monstrous infantry and therefore don’t meet the bind type requirement?

James


Oh yes, of course... they're not able to Bind to Srónax.

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