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When battle orders are decided upon, both players must attach the appropriate order tokens (face down) to each unit within the general's command, each commander and each individual outside of a command.

Ordered Commanders

Ordered commanders must, in their next activation after accepting the new order, perform a compulsory New Order action to issue that new order to the units in his command in the same way as a general does to his own command.

Commanders may only ever issue the order they have accepted from the general, and only ever to the units within their command, and only if they are within the commander's command range. If a commander's unit is not within his command range, they cannot be issued the new order and must continue the battle under their current order.

Commanders may issue the new order to any unit they are the leader of in the same activation as they have accepted a new order (i.e., the commander does not need to activate to do so), and without the need for an ORDER TEST.

Dan Pratt wrote:We need a little help to clear some confusion:

4.1.1.5 Attach Order Tokens

When battle orders are decided upon, both players must attach the appropriate order tokens (face down) to each unit within the general's command, each commander and each individual outside of a command.

What about units within a commander's command?

Dan Pratt wrote:

6.50.4.4.2

Ordered Commanders

Ordered commanders must, in their next activation after accepting the new order, perform a compulsory New Order action to issue that new order to the units in his command in the same way as a general does to his own command.

Commanders may only ever issue the order they have accepted from the general, and only ever to the units within their command, and only if they are within the commander's command range. If a commander's unit is not within his command range, they cannot be issued the new order and must continue the battle under their current order.

Commanders may issue the new order to any unit they are the leader of in the same activation as they have accepted a new order (i.e., the commander does not need to activate to do so), and without the need for an ORDER TEST.

Dan Pratt wrote:So, if a commander is issued an ATTACK battle order, is he compelled to immediately issue a series of direct orders to his units? Would this mean that commanders should always be activated before their units? If the commander must relay the same order to all of his units, this would be important to consider when building a host (i.e., ATTACK command, MOVE command, etc.)

Thanks

Rob Lane wrote:

Dan Pratt wrote:We need a little help to clear some confusion:

4.1.1.5 Attach Order Tokens

When battle orders are decided upon, both players must attach the appropriate order tokens (face down) to each unit within the general's command, each commander and each individual outside of a command.

What about units within a commander's command?

They have the same order as their commander (although there are exceptions - Frenzied units, support units etc.). I generally always pop the same order token next to each unit in a command so there's no confusion.

Bear in mind a general can issue different orders to any unit in his command. Commanders can't do that.

Dan Pratt wrote:

6.50.4.4.2

Ordered Commanders

Ordered commanders must, in their next activation after accepting the new order, perform a compulsory New Order action to issue that new order to the units in his command in the same way as a general does to his own command.

Commanders may only ever issue the order they have accepted from the general, and only ever to the units within their command, and only if they are within the commander's command range. If a commander's unit is not within his command range, they cannot be issued the new order and must continue the battle under their current order.

Commanders may issue the new order to any unit they are the leader of in the same activation as they have accepted a new order (i.e., the commander does not need to activate to do so), and without the need for an ORDER TEST.

Dan Pratt wrote:So, if a commander is issued an ATTACK battle order, is he compelled to immediately issue a series of direct orders to his units? Would this mean that commanders should always be activated before their units? If the commander must relay the same order to all of his units, this would be important to consider when building a host (i.e., ATTACK command, MOVE command, etc.)

Thanks

Well, it's all in that text you've quoted. Commanders issue their new order to any unit in their command (within command range) without the need for an activation. The general tells the commander what the new order is (i.e., it's the general's activation), the commander accepts it and repeats it to any unit in his command within his command range - all in the general's activation.

Cheers
Rob

Rob Boyce wrote:The text he quoted says it's only units the commander is leading that he can re-order without activating, other units in his command have to wait till he activates. Is that correct?

Rob Boyce wrote:Also am I right in thinking that a general can issue individual orders to any unit, not just those in his command?