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Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:03 am
by staggerlee
I have read through this section so many times now, and feel that I really should understand this very basic part of the game.
But, I can't.
The question is this;
If player 1 has the right flank positioning edge, and player 2 has the opposite (player 1's left). Can player 1 then choose the number 5 positioning Field (left flank), and player 2 choose the number 8 (left flank advance)?. From what i can tell, both meets the requirements for positioning, as the positioning ground touches either the flank positioning edge or their head positioning edge.
But, what makes me ask this question is that this means they will deploy almost on top of each other.
Hope at least some of you understand my question, he he.

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:06 am
by Jonathon Chester
Simply put if your opponent picks his left (your right) you can only pick the deployments that use your left as your flanking edge if that makes sense

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:19 am
by staggerlee
Yeah, it makes sense, but this is what I am struggeling with (taken from the rules):
"making sure their positioning ground touches either their head
positioning edge or flank positioning edge (or both, if their
positioning ground touches two edges)".
It says either edge or flank edge. Well, maybe I read to much into this, he he.

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:39 am
by Phil Winstanley
Sounds like I've missed something too.

I thought it was fine to be deploying right near each other as it means the forces have startled one another and means a very brutal first hour!

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:42 am
by Rob Boyce
Stagger 'or both if it touches two edges' so if you select a shoulder or corner deployment it must still be on your flank

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:59 am
by staggerlee
Starting to get this now, I hope. So the requirement is that my positioning Field needs to touch my choosen flank and my positioning head edge?

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:47 am
by Rob Boyce
Yep! Unless it only touches one of the two

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:39 am
by staggerlee
So then my example in the first post is correct then ( at least what i tried to show).. All that is required is that the positioning Field either touches head or flank edge, or both. If so, there is a possibility that both players positioning Field overlaps each other.

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:11 pm
by Rob Boyce
Right I have the rulebook in front of me now so can actually check the deployments you're talking about. Bear in mind the difference between positioning ground (where you deploy your standard troops) and positioning field (the whole deployment including flankers and scouts) If one player takes Left Flank, and the other takes Left Flank Advance the positioning grounds will not overlap as each player will be deploying on their left (ie opposite flanks of the table). There will be a slight overlap where the left flank players flanking ground and a miniscule amount of their scouting ground over laps the left flank advance players scouting ground, but yes positioning fields can overlap and if you for example take right shoulder, and right flank, positioning grounds can touch but I don't think there's an instance where the actual positioning grounds will overlap.

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:22 pm
by staggerlee
Ok, thx for the answer. Being a bit slow here, and there is a lot of the rules which i find hard to understand. Maybe it is how they are written, dont know, never actually had such a hard time getting the grasp of the rules as in Darklands. I do read a lot of rulebooks, even for systems i never ever going to play. Maybe it is because English is not my first Language, but that has not been a problem before. But since I have invested hard in Darklands since their first ks, I am not giving up! And I am getting there, but it is taking time.

Re: Positioning fields

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:26 pm
by Rob Boyce
It is difficult to learn from the book, the best way is to play it. and then go back and check the rules for things you were unsure about!