Khthones new muster

[Special_ed]

Hi all

This may sound like a silly question but I can't work it out.

How do I field a legal khthones gorgon force over 499gold?

I can't work out how I recruit common units without using a gorgonarch and a gorgorix.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm looking to start playing soon.

I currently have:

Ophius
Ssybiyros
Petraeus
7 gorgorar
1 krokodor
1 hydrar
Giant croc
Giant hydra
Please excuse the lack of correct spelling or correct names.

Can I make a legal force with what I have?

Thanks for looking at this.

[Rick_Boer]

You're looking at playing at 999g or higher?

For common slots, at 999g or lower you only need 1 and as Gorgorix / Gorgonarch make you snakes mainstay that's your slot filled right away.
If you're going for higher gold battles, you can look into mustering Savrár units without a Savrarch to keep them common (or common (2) in the case of Savrakontar) instead of mainstay.

But, that does mean you will indeed have to get more models.

[Alex (ÉgB)]

If you are using Ophios, then wouldn't the Krokodor and the Hydrar fill 4 common slots? Presuming you are aiming for a Battle size force of 2000, then either one would fill your required number of commons.

He'll wipe out your rares though, so that's the trade off.

From a brief check (other more experienced people will no doubt be along soon), you are low on mainstay - you'd need another couple of Gorogorar miniatures to make three units of three to satisfy those (or get some other mainstay unit).

Hope that helps a little!

[Special_ed]

Thanks for the replies. That helps.

One more though. The effective size rules states for a unit of more than 1 then the effective size rule needs to be applied. So would that mean I could for example have 3 separate units of gorgorar with only 1 model in? (Obviously this would not be the best choice)

I know this is a strange way of thinking this but the muster profiles start at 1+/5 then a minimum unit number would be 1. Any more than that and the effective size rules kick in.

Sorry I'm just trying to get my head around it.

[Rick_Boer]

To fill your mandatory Mainstay slots you need units of 3 minimum, as they have to be at their effective size or more
If you have filled your mandatory slots you can have more units of 1-5, your choice.

If you let me know which models you really want in your host and at what size you want to play I can build you a sample list.
Also, what other models would you be fine with buying so I can try and fit those in, as you'll need more infantry / monstrous infantry anyway.

[Special_ed]

Ahh ok. Thank you.

So I suppose the best way of doing it would be to get another 2 gorgonar and another gorgonarch. Or srokk and 2 krokodor. That would ensure I have sufficient common and mainstream units for a battle size game.

I'm looking to play battle size games and I want to keep with the gorgon/krokod theme. Love the liskarch and large hydra too so they would be a must.
I'm looking to get some proxy models for a savrar unit until they become available and would be happy to get a couple more gorgonars and srokk and a couple of krokodor too.
I hope that helps

Just another one. Would this be a legal Skirmish force?

Gorgon rare. 288
Gorgonach common 119
Gorgonar x3 main. 183
Gorgonar x3 main 183
Liskarch uncommon 216
989 gold

Thank you all so much for the help

[Dave Fraser]

Off top of my head looks ok as you can muster a character as an individual under someone else's command so don't need 3 commands. I think you need to muster a unit of gorgonar under each of gorgon & gorgonarch because their special rules. Though not if gorgon is seen to trump gorgonarch but as written I don't think it switches off that requirement.