Mierce Miniatures

Postby Rick_Boer » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:53 pm
Jute Cyning shows 1-3

Jutes
the jute wihtax horse have the shieldwall special rule, although they do not carry any shields nor have the option to do so
the wihtgar horse are the only cavalry with the shieldwall special rule, don't know if this is a mistake or intentional
the dreaguth thains tomb lantern has the ignores armour special rule, while the tomb lanterns of the gast cyning and the normal gasts do not have ignores armour, again this could be a mistake or intentional

Ysians
the horse ax drune have albainn as kindred and fortriu as realm

Formoraic
reiver witch has no option for a horse

Erainn
fir bholg hurler are fearsome but the fir bholg currak is neither fearsome nor terrifying

cheers

(opened a new topic as Rob said new thread for new errors)

Fomoraic

Nucranc - Champion cost states Err.508
Warlock Lord of Baalor - Ubiquity is Rare+Uncommon (seems off next to the single-rare scions)


Jutes

Tomb Spider - Model name is ?
Manasceancan - Has the trait "Glider" (while is might be intended rulewise it does seem a bit off to me)
Gast Cyning - "Of Ancient Honour" would stack with itself when multiple Cyninga(?) are present.

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Best Sven

Stefan wrote:Postby Rick_Boer » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:53 pm
Jute Cyning shows 1-3

Whoops... sorted

Stefan wrote:the jute wihtax horse have the shieldwall special rule, although they do not carry any shields nor have the option to do so

Sorted

Stefan wrote:the wihtgar horse are the only cavalry with the shieldwall special rule, don't know if this is a mistake or intentional

Mistake!

Stefan wrote:the dreaguth thains tomb lantern has the ignores armour special rule, while the tomb lanterns of the gast cyning and the normal gasts do not have ignores armour, again this could be a mistake or intentional

Mistake. I'll fix

Stefan wrote:Ysians
the horse ax drune have albainn as kindred and fortriu as realm

Thanks, sorted

Stefan wrote:Formoraic
reiver witch has no option for a horse

She does, it's called a Capacx

Stefan wrote:Erainn
fir bholg hurler are fearsome but the fir bholg currak is neither fearsome nor terrifying

Whoops! Fixed now.

Thanks a lot Stefan / Rick!

Cheers
Rob

deadlydeceiver wrote:Nucranc - Champion cost states Err.508

Sorted.

deadlydeceiver wrote:Warlock Lord of Baalor - Ubiquity is Rare+Uncommon (seems off next to the single-rare scions)

Good point, I'll change him.

deadlydeceiver wrote:Tomb Spider - Model name is ?

Sorted, thanks

deadlydeceiver wrote:Manasceancan - Has the trait "Glider" (while is might be intended rulewise it does seem a bit off to me)

Yeah, for lack of another ability that gives him free movement (i.e., he's not restricted by rough ground). It'll have to do for now!

deadlydeceiver wrote:Gast Cyning - "Of Ancient Honour" would stack with itself when multiple Cyninga(?) are present.

Good point, fixed.

Cheers
Rob

Ysian Muster v1.21

Flesh-Drune and Sword Melusines do not have "Drune" as thier kin. Death-Melusine and other sorcerers have Drune listed

Dan Pratt wrote:Ysian Muster v1.21

Flesh-Drune and Sword Melusines do not have "Drune" as thier kin. Death-Melusine and other sorcerers have Drune listed

Cheers mate - Flesh-Drune should be Drune, anything Melusine should be Melusine.

Cheers
Rob

Ignilegionarius has a unit size of 1+/8 but only a damage grid for 3 models

demyse wrote:Ignilegionarius has a unit size of 1+/8 but only a damage grid for 3 models

Cheers, sorted. They're 1+/3.

Rob

Not sure if intentional or not but; Fomoraic have no Mainstay units (that I can see)?
Current Muster Rules state that a minimum of one Mainstay unit is required for an Encounter.

Hi Tailum.

You need to refer to compel and influence muster rules. A warlord/war chief changes the Ubiquity of units in their command. For example Gul-Gabrax Untain - Compel(Gabrax, Gul-Gabrax) Influence (Gabrox).

I.e. Gul-Gabrax (common (2)) and Gabrax (common) count as Mainstay (2) and Mainstay respectively and Gul-Gabrox count as Common under Gul-Gabrax Untain's command.

Andy

That is almost correct, except that the Gul Gabrax are still only Mainstay (1) if compelled. Only if the commander has the Compel (unit (x)) where x is 2 or 3, it makes the unit take up more Mainstay slots

Ahh, I beg pardon. I was just looking at the kindred musters and wasn't seeing anything. I keep forgetting that there's a separate muster rules pdf =S

the ranged weapon characteristics are inconsistent throughout the musters
e.g.
albainn elbharu bharcroas have weapon+ 50 and M+W 50 (base might is 30)
while e.g. the atalantes toxokolossos have
toxon weapon+ 9 and M+W 54 (base might 45 +9 for the toxon)

anglecynn
ceorl bowmen
the drilled bowmen change their ubiquity to common although the ceorl bowmen are already common

Just been flicking through the the Vras muster and spotted a few things with the Kill-Vras.
Firstly, under his name, the pronunciation is given as vrass cheef.
Secondly, the M+W values for his weapons are calculated using the might value of the Vras chief rather than the kill Vras.
Thirdly, the cost to mount the kill Vras on a rend terror is listed as 2 gold. That can't be right surely?

Stefan wrote:the ranged weapon characteristics are inconsistent throughout the musters
e.g.
albainn elbharu bharcroas have weapon+ 50 and M+W 50 (base might is 30)
while e.g. the atalantes toxokolossos have
toxon weapon+ 9 and M+W 54 (base might 45 +9 for the toxon)

The Elbharu are using crossbows, which don't use their MIGHT; these weapons, like the Iliotoxotes, have a Weapon+ value, basically.

Stefan wrote:anglecynn
ceorl bowmen
the drilled bowmen change their ubiquity to common although the ceorl bowmen are already common

Yeah, that should read Common (2). I'll change it, thanks!

Cheers
Rob

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Just been flicking through the the Vras muster and spotted a few things with the Kill-Vras.
Firstly, under his name, the pronunciation is given as vrass cheef.
Secondly, the M+W values for his weapons are calculated using the might value of the Vras chief rather than the kill Vras.

Sorted! Thank you!

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Thirdly, the cost to mount the kill Vras on a rend terror is listed as 2 gold. That can't be right surely?

Certainly not! Good work, thank you - fixed.

Cheers
Rob

Infernii
- Scecchus doesn't have mighty strike on his horn butt

demyse wrote:Infernii
- Scecchus doesn't have mighty strike on his horn butt

Good spot, fixed!

Cheers
Rob

Just a small one this time Rob,
Byzantii Auxiliarius have switch (Pilum) on both the Spatha and Pugio but their spears are named as Hasta rather than Pilum.

James

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Just a small one this time Rob,
Byzantii Auxiliarius have switch (Pilum) on both the Spatha and Pugio but their spears are named as Hasta rather than Pilum.

James

Nice one, fixed.

Cheers
Rob

Another small one:
Gast Cyning Deadgar has "Switch Hands" also it has no 2-handed profile.

All weapons of Gast and Gast Cyning are marked as primary weapons.

You might have this marked down already, but Nucranc Culltan cost still reads "Err:508"

Best Sven

deadlydeceiver wrote:Another small one:
Gast Cyning Deadgar has "Switch Hands" also it has no 2-handed profile.

Fixed

deadlydeceiver wrote:All weapons of Gast and Gast Cyning are marked as primary weapons.

These are tricky. Gāst Cyning is easy, but Gāsta are not... they can have pretty much any combination of weapon, so they're all primary.

deadlydeceiver wrote:You might have this marked down already, but Nucranc Culltan cost still reads "Err:508"

Yeah, that's fixed - just haven't uploaded the new versions.

Cheers
Rob

Rob, another minor one and most likely just nit-picky as hell.
The Albainn Mormaer and Umaer both have Arfis as standard but the description of the Mormaer is light armour and for the Umaer is Corselet.
Also the Oghu Woad Naked rule says the Woad has Replacement (Mailshirt) it's clear what it intends but maybe changing the rule to Replacement (Corselet or Light Armour) depending on which one you go for would help.

James

Further to that the Beaten Arfis for the Oghur Umaer and Oghureach Umaer is described as heavy and light respectively while it seems that the heavy variant is Beaten and the light variant is Battered for the other monstrous Infantry.
Again, apologies for the nit picking in these last two.

James

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Rob, another minor one and most likely just nit-picky as hell.

Firstly... stop apologising! This is exactly what I'm looking for - please be as nit-picky as hell!

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:The Albainn Mormaer and Umaer both have Arfis as standard but the description of the Mormaer is light armour and for the Umaer is Corselet.
Also the Oghu Woad Naked rule says the Woad has Replacement (Mailshirt) it's clear what it intends but maybe changing the rule to Replacement (Corselet or Light Armour) depending on which one you go for would help.

Yeah, I'll just change the Mormaer to Corselet and the Replacement (Mailshirt) to Replacement (Corselet).

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Further to that the Beaten Arfis for the Oghur Umaer and Oghureach Umaer is described as heavy and light respectively while it seems that the heavy variant is Beaten and the light variant is Battered for the other monstrous Infantry.

Well, the Oghureach Uhmaer should have heavy armour, so I'll just change that.

Keep up the good work ;o)

Cheers
Rob

Well if i'm allowed to pick at the nits.
Hippeus of Ilios: their stay line says they have 34 constitution and the C+A values agree with this, but their wound counter (i'm sure it has an actual name but nothing comes to me at the moment) where wounds are marked off suggests they only have 11 constitution which would be in line with other human mounted units.

James

Again, related to above.
Hippeus Xiphos has Switch (Doru) and the Dekarchos has +1 to attack dice (Doru) but their spears are named Xyston.

James

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Well if i'm allowed to pick at the nits.
Hippeus of Ilios: their stay line says they have 34 constitution and the C+A values agree with this, but their wound counter (i'm sure it has an actual name but nothing comes to me at the moment) where wounds are marked off suggests they only have 11 constitution which would be in line with other human mounted units.

Yeah, that's not picking nits at all, that's a total mistake! Fixed now.

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Again, related to above.
Hippeus Xiphos has Switch (Doru) and the Dekarchos has +1 to attack dice (Doru) but their spears are named Xyston.

Sorted, thanks!

Cheers
Rob

Rob,

Khthones: the khelon's shell slam has a M+W of 104 and a Charge+ of 34 but it's M+W+Ch is only 121.

James

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Khthones: the khelon's shell slam has a M+W of 104 and a Charge+ of 34 but it's M+W+Ch is only 121.

Good spot, fixed now.

Cheers
Rob

Rob,

Byzantii Dromedon has the option to purchase beaten armour, but the cost is listed as 0, is that correct? If it isfree then should it not be included in the profile as standard.

James

Byzantii - Demimagus - securis doesn't have wound plus 1D10 while each other one does (demilegionaire, demioption etc)

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Byzantii Dromedon has the option to purchase beaten armour, but the cost is listed as 0, is that correct? If it isfree then should it not be included in the profile as standard.

It says 1 gold on my copy... perhaps it's an old version you're looking at?

Cheers
Rob

demyse wrote:Byzantii - Demimagus - securis doesn't have wound plus 1D10 while each other one does (demilegionaire, demioption etc)

Good spot, fixed!

Cheers
Rob

Rob Lane wrote:

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Byzantii Dromedon has the option to purchase beaten armour, but the cost is listed as 0, is that correct? If it isfree then should it not be included in the profile as standard.

It says 1 gold on my copy... perhaps it's an old version you're looking at?

Cheers
Rob

1.15, same as the version on the site. May be that someone already caught and mentioned it?

Really small one:

Scion of Conan: Shot weapon profile row is that of a gaze weapon (gaze damage / glance damage...)

Another one on the Byzantii for you.

Auxilia Option's weapons have Switch (Scutum) but his shield is a Parma and he isn't given the option to swap for a Scutum.

James

Hi,
The Cugacx has a 50mm base in Fomoraic Musters, and a 60mm base is mentioned on the webstore.. Were is the mistake?

deadlydeceiver wrote:Scion of Conan: Shot weapon profile row is that of a gaze weapon (gaze damage / glance damage...)

Sorted, thanks!

antoine wrote:Hi, The Cugacx has a 50mm base in Fomoraic Musters, and a 60mm base is mentioned on the webstore.. Were is the mistake?

Ah, good spot - he should be on a 60mm of course, and I need to adjust his characteristics accordingly. Fixed!

VALPHAOMEGAV wrote:Auxilia Option's weapons have Switch (Scutum) but his shield is a Parma and he isn't given the option to swap for a Scutum.

Fixed, thank you!

Cheers
Rob

Hi, isn't it strange that the walvax untain and tain haven't got the rope net option?

antoine wrote:Hi, isn't it strange that the walvax untain and tain haven't got the rope net option?

Not really, as the miniatures don't have nets... yet.

Cheers
Rob

hi, I think there is something confusing in the musters rules about individuals :
1.1.2.2: "a general may muster a warrior with a higher authority than his own (...) he will become an individual mustered outside of a command. "
And 1.1.6: "the only restriction to mustering an individual outside of a command is that an individual's authority must be lower than their general's authority."
It sounds like a contradiction...

antoine wrote:hi, I think there is something confusing in the musters rules about individuals :
1.1.2.2: "a general may muster a warrior with a higher authority than his own (...) he will become an individual mustered outside of a command. "
And 1.1.6: "the only restriction to mustering an individual outside of a command is that an individual's authority must be lower than their general's authority."
It sounds like a contradiction...

Yeah, that's a contradiction - ignore 1.1.6, I'll have to remove that.

Good spot!

Cheers
Rob

Thank you for your answer !