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AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:02 pm
by AndyS
So guys, as I'm painting the Trolls I'm painting this beast too! I'm not breaking any new ground with the Trolls so I thought I'd start this WIP as it should be more interesting!

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I attacked him with the airbrush. The armour a mix of VMA cammo black brown and black. The flesh with a mix of Foundry mediterranean flesh shade and VMA cammo black brown. Honestly a little darker than I hoped.

After taking the photo I went over the flesh with Reaper bronzed flesh shade (I think!) but it would not flow properly even when heavilly thinned with VMA thinners. So I had to stop.

Has anyone used Reaper paints in the airbrush before? It seemed like it was drying on the needle.


Cheers!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:14 pm
by AndyS
Well I solved my Reaper paint problem by thinning with water, thinners and flow extender. Very dilute but at least it goes through the airbrush! Using this method I airbrushed up to Reaper Tanned Flesh light. I'm beginning to gain some confidence and I can just about put the paint where I want it now! Still far for expert, or even competant for that matter.
After this I washed the whole flesh area with very, very dilute VMA cammo black brown and black mix. This was in order to bring out the amazing texture on the skin.
Sorry, no pic of this stage really.
OK, so the flesh of a model this size is quite daunting to me, so I decided to concentrate my efforts on the face to start. Using the Reaper Tanned Flesh triad and also the Pale flesh I highlighted the face.........then went to bed. Unhappy as it looked really washed out and pale! So before work today I added in some Tanned flesh again, some red and some purple. This is where I am right now.

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The face is still somewhat pale but it's getting there!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:18 pm
by grefven
I think it looks good, especially with how the purple shines through.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:23 pm
by AndyP
I'm liking the skin tone too. Also you asked previously to let you know how I get on with the iwata eclipse hp-cs airbrush I bought and can say it makes thing a lot easier. Not gone into highlighting with it yet but much easier to position the paint where I want it and alter the amount being delivered. Much smoother trigger action. Definitely recommend upgrading from the cheapies.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:34 pm
by AndyS
Cheers guys. Looks like a new airbrush could be on the Xmas list then!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:44 pm
by darthmarsh
Andy I think that looks absolutely amazing. I like the pale face to, It helps to give it a otherworldly feel

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:27 pm
by AndyP
How are you finding getting in under his hair? I was of 2 minds to leave it off until after I paint him.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:13 am
by AndyS
Andy, I'll let you know when I get round to that bit! I put the hair on as it needed some filling. I didn't want to have to do that after painting the skin.
Still not sure about the pale skin. I'll put another pic up later. Looks a little cartoony. I'll leave it for now and see how the rest turns out!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:49 am
by AndyP
I did the same with the hair but I keep looking at it and thinking I may regret it.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:41 am
by AndyS
As promissed another couple of pics. The face as of now and the back, showing what I've managed with the airbrush. The back obviously needs a lot of brush work!
I think I have figured out how to improve the face. Some glazes with olive greens and browns. Just to sit the colour somewhere between Troll and Man. But this will wait until the rest of the skin is ready.

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More tomorrow......maybe!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:46 am
by zedmeister
Daaammmmnnn. Already shaping up nicely.

This gonna be good

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:36 am
by AndyS
Cheers Zed, truth be told I'm not very happy with it at the moment!I've painted the stomach area and it looks totally different to the head. Probably a bit more how I'd like, but looks dirty some how. Let's hope I can pull it together at the end.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:00 am
by darthmarsh
I really like it as it is Andy. The extra details like the lips and teeth really help to pull it all together. He looks ghoulish and incredibly intimidating! good start on the chainmail as well, there's crazy amounts of detail on that thing

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:35 pm
by Murderous Monkey
I have been lurking for some time and (having finally logged on) wanted to say that your Norse inspired me to purchase the faction before the Kickstarter pricing finished. I'm looking forward to seeing how this shapes up over the next few weeks!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:42 am
by AndyS
OK, so I have a few new pics. First some more work on the face and skin.
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I have added some more brown to the face as it was too bright. I have also begun the stomach, torso and the right hand side of the back. Then I got bored of skin! To continue momentum of the piece I decided to move to other parts of the model.
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And that's it for now. I should get the brushes out again tonight! I'm not sure about the patchwork skirt at the moment. That may change.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:19 pm
by JLLongshore
He gets scarier each update !!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:41 am
by AndyS
So I've been splashing some paint around again. I changed the green leather patches as I found them too distracting, replaced them with a slightly different brown.
Painted the arm and leg wrappings, I actually like what I've done with these for a change! Bones are done too!

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I still feel there is a long way to go and not much time to get there, still have to re-visit the flesh, start the hammer........not to mention the base!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:08 pm
by Lesrac
he looks really good.
can't wait for the finished mini

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:11 pm
by Quuids
Incredible work, you are almost convincing me to buy one of these!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:58 pm
by darthmarsh
He keeps getting better and better. I think you did the right thing with the patchwork, it is less obvious and looks better for it. Can I ask how you do you metals? the Pauldron is brilliant

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:20 am
by AndyS
For metal I basecoat the whole area with dark brown.
Using an old GW drybrush I 'stipple' everything except the recesses with a dark metal colour (currently whatever the GW replacement for Boltgun metal is called).
Then I get VMC oily steel and 'stipple' stlghtly less area with that. Then repeat with VMC natural steel, then with VAC steel.
Then highlight the edges with VAC steel.
Then add shadows with thinned dark brown and some dark green in places too.
Add rust to taste with Foundry paint systen tan! (thinned of course).

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:18 am
by JLLongshore
can't really rate or grade him, or comment on him, I just have to look at him.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:30 pm
by Quuids
So I ordered him, who wants to paint him? Haha I can't do these mini's justice I'm afraid....

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:35 pm
by SteamHammer
Looking beautiful. Odd request but could you post a photo of your stippling brush please?

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:49 pm
by razormage
SteamHammer wrote:Looking beautiful. Odd request but could you post a photo of your stippling brush please?

Heh, I went looking for this because I was curious to try some stippling tonight. I found this in his Troll WiP thread:

AndyS wrote:The technique is too easy! Just get an old drybrush from a well known manufacturer of former greatness. Put on your paint. Wipe a good deal of it off on a cloth. Poke it at the area you want the paint on! I did use a cut off brush with harder bristles on the axe. It makes more definate lines. The old splayed out drybrush was softer so produced a softer effect. A combination of both is good!

I'm guessing the mentioned manufacturer starts with a G and rhymes with Blames Dirkchop.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:04 am
by AndyS
Correct!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:38 am
by AndyP
Blames Dirkchop :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:47 am
by SteamHammer
Thanks. Time to chop up an old brush to accompany the splayed drybrushing one I used.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:56 am
by AndyS
I'll put the brush pic up at lunchtime!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:57 am
by AndyS
Blames Dirkchop, sounds like an 'adult performer'!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:58 am
by AndyS
here are my brushes Steamhammer.

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Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:38 pm
by SteamHammer
Thanks. Will make one of my own and try it out on the next tarvax.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:45 am
by AndyS
So another few pics to add to the WIP. Have added the arm! Done more skin and probably some other bits I can't remember. Still so much to do and so little time to do it!

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I really should make a start on the base too!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:03 pm
by AndyP
Looking great as usual. Really like that skin tone. What have you used? Tried your stippling technique on Beowa's metal. Works really well and easy to get the hang of. Nice one

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:10 pm
by AndyS
Glad you're getting on with the stippling Andy. Will Beowa be ready for WAMP?
Flesh wise, since I started using a proper brush it's Reaper Tanned flesh I think. With Fair skin also. These both come as a triad. Red glazes are also Reaper (not actual glazes but paint with glaze medium and water). Can't remember off hand which one so I'll look later.
I'm beginning to like the Reaper paints. They are really matte. No shine at all once dry. Also the blending shows when wet but not so much when dry. So the blends are better than you think!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:40 pm
by razormage
Just gorgeous, AndyS. It's always a good day when you've got new WiPs. I'm really enjoying the way his hair is greyed up close to the temple and then browns as it goes down its back. Not sure if he's dyeing it, or it's just getting filthy on that back!
I'm hoping to try your stippling out on my Cawrdraig, but right now it's a race to even get the third one finished, much less come back to them! I was surprised by how little your stippling brush was actually splayed; I was expecting something closer to a totally destroyed brush.
That leather is gorgeous.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:01 pm
by AndyS
Cheers Razor! I thought I'd try and make the hair look like he's getting old. So grey at the roots and his younger hair colour at the ends. Dreadlocks contain lots of old hair which is no longer attached to the scalp but with nowhere to go! The hair is still in progress so will change a little.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:16 pm
by AndyP
AndyS wrote:Glad you're getting on with the stippling Andy. Will Beowa be ready for WAMP?

They are both done. Just finishing off the bases now so should be on there by end of the week. Not up to your quality but I'm pretty happy with them. Always room for improvement though :-)

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:19 pm
by AndyS
Looking forward to seeing them Andy.

Yes, always room for improvement!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:05 pm
by AndyS
Here's the honestly not finished model.

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I think I need a face close up added for WAMP. Maybe.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:38 pm
by razormage
I would also, if you could fit it somewhere, try to get a close up of the details you've got on the metallic shoulder pads. The model is so large that at the distance you've got, a lot of the nice detail painting you've done is lost. I'm loving the way he's turned out, and am now kind of intimidated about painting my own. Maybe I should just stick with draconic stuff for the moment.
[EDIT: Then I actually clicked through and viewed it at 1000px. Please ignore me, for I was ignorant. the details are coming through great.]

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:41 pm
by zedmeister
Lovely piece of work. Definitely need higher res images!

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:55 pm
by razormage
zedmeister wrote:Lovely piece of work. Definitely need higher res images!

Click the thumbnail he put up, and it'll take you to his Photobucket, which has a much higher res (if you click twice to zoom in). I thought the same thing until I realized it.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:57 pm
by AndyS
click on the magnifyer then view original.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:24 pm
by AndyP
He looks fantastic. Really well done :-)

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:10 pm
by grefven
Looks totally awesome. :)

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 pm
by Mahrdol
Yes very nice.

Re: AndyS Mjagnir WIP

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:16 am
by SteamHammer
He looks awesome and even though mine would never turn out that nice I kind of wish I'd got him now.