Trolls Trolls Trolls

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Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Dayle12 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:47 pm

So been looking at how best to come up with a host that's as the name suggests trolls focused and so far this is what I've got

Troll knonugr 2 kljufra beaten brynja - 182 gold (general)

1 x 5 compelled trolls, (free command) beaten armour - 310 gold

1x grimtroll - 317 gold



Troll jarl, beaten brynja, 2 minutes - 101 gold

1 x 5 compelled trolls, (free command) beaten armour, great cleaved - 325 gold

1 x 3 leiptrolls - 84 gold


Individual troll gothi with forked lightning and thunderous skies - 176 gold

Total 1495 gold

Would have loved to downgrade the knonugr to a jarl and gain a second unit of leiptrolls, but then I won't have enough authority for everything,

But just looking for what people would think of this list
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Jonathon Chester » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:55 pm

I would muster the Gothi under your general, hes currently a tad vulnerable on his own but it looks to be a fairly competitive force as many things would be worried to go near those units
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Icchan » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:56 pm

EDIT: beaten to it.
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Jonathon Chester » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:57 pm

Icchan wrote:I think you'll want the troll gothi there somewhere, if you roll high on it's bonus temper it's a really good invoker. Dropping 1 troll from each troll unit?


There is a gothi in the list :)
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Dayle12 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:59 pm

Would I have enough authority to do that ?
With the trolls and grimtroll, it's a total of of 72 only leaving 9 left over
Or have I missed something about individuals/nobles
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Icchan » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:00 pm

Jonathon Chester wrote:There is a gothi in the list :)

Missed with the first glance, but I agree with you. It could be mustered as part of the host command?

Also, can you actually muster gothi as an individual without a command? It doesn't have the Individual rule.
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Brightblade » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:02 pm

This troll force is unbeatable, ì know I've tried twice with Atalantians and Fomoraic.. :(

Next up Anglecynn, time for some lightening singed fur...
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby DrNO172000 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:05 pm

Icchan wrote:
Jonathon Chester wrote:There is a gothi in the list :)

Missed with the first glance, but I agree with you. It could be mustered as part of the host command?

Also, can you actually muster gothi as an individual without a command? It doesn't have the Individual rule.


It could not be mustered as an Individual as individual is a sub-class, and the muster rules expressly state individuals can be mustered on their own but doesn't say this about nobles in general.

So the only place he could be mustered legally is in the Host Command, not to be confused with the General's command.

Even if you stripped out the Grimtroll and put the Gothi in the General's Command I'm not sure how that would protect him? Only commanders and generals (with the exception of how the Host Command works) can join units, Commanders only able to join units in their command and the General able to join any unit respectively. Unless I am missing something?
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Dayle12 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:56 am

Sorry didn't realize that bit about not being able to take the gothi on it's own my bad

So if I was to take out 1 of the twin cleaver trolls and replace it with 5 upgraded holumann and put them under the gothi it would be a legal force ?
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Rob Lane » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:06 am

Dayle12 wrote:Sorry didn't realize that bit about not being able to take the gothi on it's own my bad

So if I was to take out 1 of the twin cleaver trolls and replace it with 5 upgraded holumann and put them under the gothi it would be a legal force ?


You can Dayle, in the Host's Command. He'd be on his todd, but he was anyway as an individual.

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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Dayle12 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:53 am

Ahh okay I think I understand the host command

So the general (knonugr) can take a host command which for me would just be the troll gothi, but could also include a hearthguard unit or host banner,
And then also create a normal command under him which would include the twin cleaver trolls and grimtroll

Have I got that right ?
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Brightblade » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:59 am

Dayle12 wrote:Ahh okay I think I understand the host command

So the general (knonugr) can take a host command which for me would just be the troll gothi, but could also include a hearthguard unit or host banner,
And then also create a normal command under him which would include the twin cleaver trolls and grimtroll

Have I got that right ?


No that's wrong you must never ever play the Troll Gothi, he must leave the battlefield immediately and never show his face again, and he can take those pesky Lightening Throwing Liep Trolls with him too...

I might have a chance of winning that way.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby DrNO172000 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:42 pm

Dayle12 wrote:Ahh okay I think I understand the host command

So the general (knonugr) can take a host command which for me would just be the troll gothi, but could also include a hearthguard unit or host banner,
And then also create a normal command under him which would include the twin cleaver trolls and grimtroll

Have I got that right ?


That's right! You can also include a host herald, and any other nobles in a host command as well.
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Dayle12 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:50 pm

Ahh okay thanks
I didn't realise that, I thought each commander (including general) can only have one command
So the general can have 2 but the host command has more restrictions
That makes my life easier when trying to figure out hosts
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Re: Trolls Trolls Trolls

Postby Rob Lane » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:10 pm

Basically I've tried to stop sorcerers being commanders, for the most part; it was making hosts very magic heavy and that's not something I really wanted.

So now it's a little bit harder to get sorcerers in, and pretty much forces people to use the host command.

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