deadlydeceiver wrote:Oh, yes of course they aren't part of the same unit. Sorry for the confusion.
Right, thought so.
Certainly does!
deadlydeceiver wrote:By doing this move, the attacker gets a very good shot at the blind arc of the passed unit as he basically charged it's blind arc despite being in it's front arc when he began his movement.
Well, according to that graphic, he can't attack the passed enemy unless he has blind strikes or is entitled to sightless strikes (so Ysians and trampling monsters and so forth).
deadlydeceiver wrote:So it doesn't seem like a "fault of the attacker", more like a really evil move (especially if he had sightless strikes)
Why is it evil? Not sure what you mean here.
Let's be clear: the above is perfectly allowed! It's an involuntary Charge. You meant to Charge the first unit, but have also Charged the second unit.
deadlydeceiver wrote:If all that were allowed: Would the attacker get (swift) charge boni against the passed unit?
Only after certain elements are sorted out. Note, here, the restrictions of the Charge action (which is not yet available I know, but it's worth clearing this up):
"A Charging unit's warriors may also become engaged with multiple enemy units simply through the act of moving into attack range when the Charge Move is completed. Every enemy unit thus engaged or beset by the Charging unit, regardless of how this occurs, become Charged units and the Charging unit is deemed to have performed an involuntary Charge upon them. However, the Charging unit must engage and perform Charge Attack actions with as many of its warriors as possible with the compulsorily or voluntarily Charged units first, and in charge order, before the involuntarily Charged units."So you'd only really be looking at blind strikes that couldn't attack the Charged unit, although most blind strikes these days are also sightless strikes.
In summary: you attack with everything you possibly can against the unit you've Charged compulsorily or voluntarily; then you can use whatever's remaining against the involuntarily Charged unit.
deadlydeceiver wrote:Good to know. Just to be sure: I can "use" a weapon with parry against attacks in the blind arc, correct?
No, unless that weapon states "sightless parry" or "blind parry". For the record, Ysians won't get sightless parry on their weapons. There's a limit!
deadlydeceiver wrote:Well, doesn't it prevent exactly this? By placing my models in a circle, everyone facing outside, I basically have no blind arc (apart from an enemy smashing past the line)
Not when you come up against Trample... ;o)
deadlydeceiver wrote:Oh, that brings up another weird thought in my mind
Assuming an attacker attacks a unit with multiple models. Due to the placement of said unit he's in the blind arc of some models and in the front arc of others. May he choose whom to attack or does he have to attack the majority?
In the Attack action text, p6:
"Always Attack the Easiest Strike
If an Attacking warrior has the choice to Attack warriors of the same class and Skill, yet one of those Attacked warriors is easier to strike than the other, the Attacking warrior will always choose the easiest strike. This does mean that the Attacking warrior may not be able to combine his Attacks with other warriors from his unit, however."deadlydeceiver wrote:Also if he attacked the "blind arc-models" and did more damage than these models had constitution would it carry over to the "front arc models"?
If they're part of the same unit and have the same class and skill, yes - trying to differentiate such things would be a nightmare and there is a point where game mechanics have to flow. Everything goes on to the wounded warrior, and so forth.
deadlydeceiver wrote:You can also strike to the back with your normal attacks, they would just be difficult strikes then. As the charger is also in the passed units blind arc - so normaly easy strikes - they'd be normal strikes in the end.
The intention is that you can't unless you can make sightless / blind strikes. If there's something that contradicts this, please tell me where it is so I can fix it...
Hope that helps.
